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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening,'m judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight, states shut down. more communities across the u.s. are ordered to stay at home, as e increase of new infections spikes. and congress struggles to reach an agreement on aid for struggling americans. then, how prepared are the hospitals? examining the state of our front line defense against covid-19 plus, reading through the pandemic. award-winning author ann patchett on what books to pick up during the long days of social distance. >> you read twelve pages a day of war and peace, in a whole community of readers, and the rext thing you know, you'v the book and the pandemic is over and you've read war and peace. w druff: all that and more on tonight's pbs newshour.
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overall, the u.s. has 35,000 cases, with more than 400 deaths. and, military field hospitals are headg to new york and seattle. amna nawaz begins our coverage. >> nawaz: the week began with an urgent warning from the u.s. surgeoral: >> i want america to understand, this week it's gonna get bad. and we really need to come together as a nation. ght now, there are not enough people out there who are taking this seriously. >> nawaz: the true scope of infection remains unknown, and is expected to grow, as testing expands. president trump pledged 1.4 million tests would be available this week. but according to one independent tally, the u.s. has conducted fewer than 240,000 to date. severin shwan, the c.e.o. of c roche,onavirus test developer said today that broad testing in the u.s. could still" meanwhile, on capill, lawmakers working to stem the ecom fallout with a
bipartisan stimulus bill, have yet to strike a deal, leading to appeals for urgent action. >> we don't have another day. nawaz: republican senator susan collins of maine: >> never have i seen republicans and democrats fail tcome together when confronted with a crisis, we did so after 9/11, wt did sothe financial meltdown in 2008. we don't have another day, we don't have another hour, we don't have another mto delay acting. >> nawaz: democratic senator sherrod brown of ohio echoed collins' call that congress learn from the past, and eure money goes where it's needed. >> we have to show the people we serve that we learned from congress' mistake 10 years ago when the banks did very well thank you and wall street again will do very well thank you under the mcconnell plan. we hte to come together to pu money in people's pockets >> nawaz: that, as the first
senator to test positive for the sunday spurs colleagues with on whom he had close contact-- utah senators mike lee and mitt romney-- to self-quagrntine. as cs hammers out a plan, an aggressive effort to keep tht economy afy the federal reserve, announcing today it would buy as much government- backed debt as possible. and leaders at the state level continue to take drastic measures like lockdowns, to stop e virus spread. the latest? maryland, massachusetts, michigan, indiana, and wiscons across the globe, city streets prime minister johnson issued a nationwide order banng all gatherings of more than two people. >> i will give the british people a very simple instruction. you must stay at home.se >> thoestrictions mirror measures taken by germany wheret today public hofficials said they appear to beed >> ( transl ): we are seeing signs that the exponential growth curve is flattening off
slightly. but i am optimistic that the measures are already having an effect, which is very early because they havonly been in place for a week. >> nawaz: worldwide, though, another sobering milestone, as the total number of cases exceeds 350,000, and with the virus continuing to spread to ecre vulnerable populations, the u.n.tary general called for a global ceasefire. >> the fury of the virus illustrates the folly of war. that is why today i am calling for an immediate globalef cee in all corners of the world.s it ime to put armed conflict on lockdown and focus togeth on the true fight of our lives. >> nawaz: a fight that in many corners, is only just beginning. for the pbs newshour, i'm amna nawaz. >> woodruff: wall street lost more ground today, despite the federal reserve's latest actions. the dow jones industrial average slid 582 points-- 3%--ose the nasdaq fell 18 points, and
the s&p 500 dropped 67. analysts say invtors are waiting for congress to act on an economic rescue package. we get more now on that situion, from congressional correspondent lisa desjardins. so lisa, it is not just the markets are waiting, bu a lot of americans who are out of work e waiting. what is the holdup? >> well, judy, tonight it's been a two different views. what iswhat you see in public swi tension and dam drama on the floor of the senate. but the more important view is behind the scenes. judy, talks have been going on steadily through the day.th we're told tha two sides are coming closer. just now republican leaders, left the meeting saying they tonight but there could be oneal tomorrow what is the holdup? a good qestion. primarily st around a stablization fund for larger companies. we're talking about 500 billioni
that repns proposed. you may see this in a graphic. and democrats are concerned that s.ey need more protections for work that those loans need to have guarteed that the companies will keep employees on payroll. dem krapts are concerned about provisions that republicans they think give secretary of the tresh ruhr steve munchin too ch leeway to give out cash to these corporations. so judy, this isa sticking point tonight. how do they come up with a deal that does protect workers from large businesses but which republicans don't think is too onerouon those businesses. >> woodruff: would love to know what is going on inside but mean time lia, speaker nancy pelosi has come up with her own proposal for all of this. what do we know, is she going her own way or what? >> i tell you what, i think right now this is nancy pelosine being a smarotiator, whatever package the senate needs to pass the house, ultimately. and she was sound happy with the senate bill that sheaid i'm going to put out my own bill.
she has that in reserve if she wants to vote on it but right now i think this is mostlygo tool of tiation for her. let me show you what she is proposin a 2.5 trillion dollar deal. she would like to increase the amount of money forospitals and for the medical care around the country. also she would raise those direct payment checks to americans to $1500 per person. the republican proposal is 1200. and also she would increase the amount of money directly helpin states as wellr unemployment and money to help the elecotions inember. as i say, though, this is-- pelosi has a large bill, 1400 pages but it remains to be seen if they will vote on this or this is something she is using to pressure the senate to come more in her direction. >> woodruff:so lisa, as those talks in the senate go on, you have reported today about how on the floor of the senate tensions just spilled right out into the open. >> right, this is what we have seen on the senate floor. this is over two votes called
clowch other, that is trying to start deb this bill, even though there is no firm bill in the senate. democrats blocked that. some republicans felt that was completeresponsible. that is debatable. both sides have different views on that. but listen to what happened on the senate floor when senator collins tried to get recognized today and then senator schumer, thdemocrat, objected. you can hear all of the tension mount in this short clip. >> mr. president. >> the senator from maine. >> mr. president, i ask unanims consent that proceedings under the quorum be dispensed with. >> is there objection. >> thank you, mr. president. >> i object. >> the democratic leader. >>s is unbelievable. >> hearing something like that from susan collins is rare judy. i was the only reporter in the chamber. llins walked over, pointed her finger at schumer, got close to him and really just unleashed a him. so there is-- it is a very
emotional time for most members of the senate. tensions rising even as talks try to stay calm. >> and mean time if his is not enough going on, lisa, the senate is dealing with its own corovirus crisis, if you will. senator rand paul has now been dying notioned. anhe was just in the senate mingling with other senators yesterda >> brief really a lot of with senator paul and his disismghts in at the capitol yoe can see one is distancing them sechs even more. this say huddle, a gagem we had with senator jill manchin, quu see reporters and senators staying farer apart. i was seeing in the chamber senators are not social distancing all the time. st a give-and-take. but clearly there is more of an understanding of the problem toy than there was yesterday because of senator paul. >> woodruff: perhaps they are all convinced that everybody else is in the clear. we'll see. lisa desjarns, thank you very much.
great reporting. >> woodruf as you know, there's growing concern around the country about how frontline healthcare workers will deal th a potential surge of patients and the fears doctors, nurses and others have for their owirsafety, as well as for t families. william brangham and i are going to explore many of those questions this evening with several voices.rs let's focus with william on the biggest hotspot in the u.s. >> brangham: we begin with a view from one emergency room in new york city, one of the cities harde hit by this outbreak so far. for that, i'm joined by dr. billy goldberg he's an emergency room physician at n.y.u. langone heal. dr. goldberg, thank you very much for doing this. can you just give us a sense of what st like in the hospital today? >> it changes ery day.
so you know, what it was like and what it is like today is a different story. things are, are getting real here in new york. we're getting sicker and sicker patients. we a all concerned abo what is going to happen in the days and weeks to come. but we're hanging in there. this is what we are trained for as emergenin meddoctors. we are there for you. >> one of the things we have read a good deal about is this concin that there isly not enough protective gear for masks, facfoshields, gownr people like yourself. are you guys okay on equipment right now? >> so describe okay. we're not exactly wherwe want to be. both of our hospital systems, nyu and-- are dng everythi we can to get what we need. on a normal day wn we see a patient like a patient with covid, would be free to put on the full protective equipment when we leave the room, we
change that equipment and put on new equipmen for the next patient. that is not the case now. we do have equment for the short-term but we don't know what is going to happen. and we aredoing things like using a mask for the entire shift until it advicably is soiled. and those are things that are tricky for us on the problem. >> so normally you would take one esk, on face sheeld per patient. >> yeah, the whole thing is you want to protect yourself, you want to take anhing that may have gotten on that, carefully and then you start fresh withit the next patient. sometimes we have what we are calling super spreader events. these are events such as an incubation which is when we have atto put a breng tube down somebody's takeia. these are super spreader eveecns bse the virus is spread much more rapidly because we are aerosoiliz,ing the virus virus, most we talk about drop lets but becf ausee
proximity to the airway, exposure to the virus is much more risky for those of us ine alth-care field. so we're trying to really prngect ourselves duhose times. and we have a shield that kind of protects-- protects the mask so you are hoping no splash hets on mask. nut when the virus is everywhere, stvitable, you know, these pcautions are not perfect. >> so you are talking about the need tout someo on a ventilator. at is something else we have imply don't at we have enough ventilators for all the patients that might need thu. are you ped well enough now or not? >> so again, now, yes. but tomorrow we don't know. we are seeing more and more patients. we have a-- at the end of every day and occasionally we willut one or two people in the shft on a vent later. yesterday i got a shift with ten people in one 12 hour period. and you know, the numbers are just increasing. so we don't know where this is
going. so we need more supplies. >> so many of us, of course, are llowing what is gong on with the medical staff and at all of those hospitals in italy. and the heart-wrenching struggles at they had to make about who to care for and who not simply because they had run out of that cap were you following that? were you reading those dispatches from doctors and were you talking mongsz your colleagues about this? >> so it didaa very ctive thing a lot of us are doing. not only to follow the stories ke everybody, but also learn about the disease process. so is we are learning this all the time to our physician chat groups, through some of these online-- and yeah, we'r following it. and we think about patients, what is in their best interest.d we try cuss events, directives. it is goi to become a much different situation. because as we get closer to the running out of these supplies we will have to make tough decisions about who is the
ivghest licklihood of survring. and that may mean you're not providing this high level care to patients who praption could have had a chance. >> and how are you, i'm just inrious, how are you personally this seem ises to be something that much of the nation is alarmed about in wathing the news and scared and worried and hoping forhe best. but as someone who is obviously on the front lines of all of this, how are you personally doing? >> we are hanging in there. i thwhat we are trained to do. it is scaishy. we are still trying to protect our sem-- our famils and protect ourselves. people-- the er docts , our colleagues in the icu, on the medicine floor and all the people who work in the hospital are also dealing with it. the clerks. the people who clean the floors. it is a scary time. in this. i think our reserve is is a little low so small things will tip us off. but we are trying to do the best
we can to seekolace in the people who are doing the same thing and just keep pushi along. >> okay, dr. billy goldberg from u lngone health, thank you so much. and best of luck to you out there. >> thank you. >> brangham: a now we turn to t a broader perspective, how an entire health system is preparing for this outbreak. for that, i'm joined now by dr. anish mahajan, he's thchief dical officer for harbor- u.c.l.a. medical center which is operated by the los angeles county health department. dr. mahajan, thank you very much for being with us. could you just give us a sevens how your hospital system is doing? how are preparations going? >> well, we are working very hard to repared for a larger number of patients that we heticipate, as we get into curve. here in southern california we are maybe a few dayhis bend new york city and other places certainly around the worsod.
ane are working very hard to increase our capacityfor icu >> approximately how many covid patients do you have right now? >> well, i will speak for the public hospital system in l.a. county. we have about ten or maybe a few more than that that are confirmed positive. but as you know, there is very little testing available. we know that in they communof l.a. county there are likely to be many more confirmed cases of covid. we just don't have the ability to test them. >> so is that your sen that absent good testing we really just don't understand how widespread the virus right now? >> that is correct. we have proxies without testin such as patients that we where -likng presenting with flu type illness. so that gives us a sense. but we know already that there is community transmission occurring here in salouthern and many other places in the nation, community transmission being paen acquiring the infection but not really knowing
that they had contact with someone who wa positive. >> you mentioned that the systemwide you are going through a lot of preparation what does that preparation look like? what are you actually doing? >> well, a number of things. one of the first things we're doing are maki sure weve sufficient protective gear on hand and using at protective gear wisely and when it st absolutely needed tot prot staff from getting the infection. the second thing we're doing is makict sure we are prog patients from each other. ensuring that patients that have systems that are flu-like or in this case coronavirus, are separated from other pat that we are seeing. the third thing we have done is of course cancelled all nonessential care such as nonessential clinic sits, operations and surgeries. we're doing that one so people can stayut of the hospital and clinics, so they can be safe. >> and areou confident that you have that capacity? do you have enough protective gear? do you haveat enough ventils.
do you have enough beds to do all of those things if the spike is as as many people fear the worst could be? >> well, we are working very hard to shore up our resoues all of those things. you know, you have heard and all of us flow that there are a few global shortages in protective gear as it relates to vet laters, same thing. all injures dictions at all levels of government are helping us find those ventilators. but perhapthe most significant problem is that we need staffing for these critical care beds. so we are asking flurszs who used to practice clinical care who may be in administrative roles to rcquaint themselves with how it is to take care of patients. because there is really goi t be an all hands on deck approach if we dobility fla- don't flaten the curve. >> what is the general sense amongst the staff. for those us who are reading reports say out of italy, there concern amongst medical staff about the difficult road that
lie ahead. how taff telling you how are ey doing, how are they s?ping with all of thi >> well, i think americans know the people who come to work ins hospitnd clinics are a compassionat these are not just the doctors and nurses, also the clerks, the pthple who clea rooms and make sure they are safe is and turn over the rooms. these people are very compassionate and mission deliver en. what we are seeing is they are showing courage. in a publicealth crisis like this where infection can be trilsmitted so eas naturally our staff want to continue to help their patients in the community but they also have to protect themselves. so yes, we are seeing a lot of anxiety among all levels of staff about whether they mayin bring thection home to their kids or to their parents. o doey protect themselves when we have shortages of protective gear. >> we know your governor newsom issued basically a stay at home is it your sense that people
thus far have been heeding that? have you noticed more peopleto seemintay away, to stay at home, to isolatehemselves? >> certainly we have probably all seen the reports that l.a. freeways are no longer choked. we can get around easily. pollution is down in majores cihat have stay at home orders. >> that is say silver lining to this crisis, i tak. >> right, and a proxy that home.e are generally staying that said, there are groups of people who maybe don't yetrs unnd the message. and particularly young people. young people ineneral feel they are invisible, so it is extraordinarily important that everybody heed thetaat home order so they protect the entire community and protect us from the infection spreading very rapid leave. as you know the infection spreads rapidly we will be overwhelmed in being ableto take care of the patients that nied the help.
>> dr. mahajan, chief medical officer of harbor ucla medical center. thank you very much.and from alk to out there. >> thank you very much. >> woodruff: >> woodruff: that all brings us to a larger look at what can be done in the u.s. to protect frontline workers and lessen the spread of covid-19. in a piece just published for the new york, doctor atul gawande writes about very specific lessons he sees from hong kong, singapore and south korea. dr. gawande is a surgeon at the brigham and women's hospital in boston and the c.e.o. of haven, a joint health care venture created by amazon, berkshire hathaway and j.p. morgan. and, he is a staff writer for the new yorker. he boston. by skype from dr. gawande, thank you so much for talking with us. so we just did her from an er physician and also the c.e.o. of a hospital abot how diffic conditions are for the workers in these hospitals in health
care settings. you have been looking at lesless ned possibly from asia. what are you finding? >> first understand that what we are seeing in italy is the hospitals themselves have become a urce of infection. by contrast in hong kong and singapore, they werable to control the infections very effectively. they had a play book and it worked. they managed to keep infections spreading inside hospitals to patients or to clinicia. and so need to follow that playbook. >> woodruff: and what are some examples of what you saw, you have written about this, about the type of may sks thewore and how long they wore them, about simple things like han what did you see? >> well, first of all they started by saying when you come in to work, they would do a health check on every health care work to see, do you have any symptoms like a fever, akoff. or any other kinds ofl fu-like symptoms. and then you would have to stay home. number two, everody wore a
surgical mask when they came into work and kept that mask on all day. partly for the protection of the health care workers but also because we are cking up infections in the community as workers ourselves, and we don't want to spread it to colleagues and to oters. there is a third one is that you really ned to separate the respiratory patients in their own clinics, in their own wards hf you have a respiratory sim is tomorrow, from people who have nonrespiratory symptoms. keep them out, different teams, different line of traffic. and we need to be preparing to all of these things. >> >> woodruff: and through all of this are you getting a beter understanding of howong this virus lingers and how long it lingers on different kinds of surfaces? >> well, so it does linger long ough that we know have to do regular cleaning, clean between each patient who comes in the room on the surfaces. interesting things, it also
shows us that you don't have to be a totally draconian. in singapore, for example, when you had, they did not automatically quarantine everybody who was eosed to a coronavirus patient. they only sent you home to be in quarantine if you were within six feet of the patient for more than 30 minutes with no mask on. and that was effective. at that tells you that if you have a brief momentary exposure within six feet to someone who has coronavirus, that you don't have tar that that is necessarily going to cause it to spread. it comes from substantial time together. >> so the duration of exposure, you are saying, really could make a differe >> the duration of exposition sure and w close you were. and of course makes sure that you, if you had your hands touching anything that might have secretary relations on it,-- is he etions on ithat
are you washing your hands. >> woodruff: and i'm sure you are aware of the reporting about the debate between president trump and some of the people around him about whether these very restrictive measures thatpu are bein in place in the united states, state by ate, maybe doing more harm than good. some people areioqueng whether people will be better off if the economy, if the entire employment picture isn't allowed to collapse. d some of these restrictions are lightened up. >> well, i think in tw wee we're going to see the onslaught of cases and understand we not ready to lift the restrictions. we are, what happened in wuhan after lockdown was it was three to four weekness later that you hit the peek of the overrun of the hospitals. then if we are successful staying at home and king down the way we have, we should see that that peek starts to down and we start seeing evidence of that.
we'lhopefully have testing moving and more supplies, and that will allow us to begin to took at ways to get people back ork. my bottom line here is i'm so frommed in what is happ making health care workers safe. because if those measures make them safe, those measures will allow all of us too get back to work again. >> you a saying that is going to take several more weeks before we have any idea. >> i expected in the flex two to wefour weekwill understand whether these combination of fellow colleagues and getting infection from patients. if those wolk, that wil show us over the next few weeks waywe can start moving people back to work jz dr. a tul gawande, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> woodruff: in the day's othero news, atic presidential candidate joe biden pressed
president trump to use his full authority against the coronavirus. the former vice president also rejected a republican economic rescue bill as a bailout for big companies. we'll return to the campaign, later in the program. there's word that this summer's tokyo olympics will be postponed dick pound, an american member of the international olympic committee, said today the games will likely take place next year. growing chorus of nations has called for a postponement. pompeo made a surprise visit to afghanistan today, trying to end a stalemate that is blocking talks with the taliban. he met with president ashrafi ghand chief rival abdullah abdullah. both men declared themselves the country's rightful leader after pompeo left later, and flew to doha to meet with taliban officials. and, back in this country,
pacific gas and electric agreed o plead guilty to 84 coun involuntary manslaughter. the viims died in a northern california wildfire that destroyed partof three towns, in november 2018. the utility now adts that faulty equipment started the fire. it will also pay $4 millioin nes. still to come on the newshour: the rus in wartime-- covid-1 arrives in conflict zones across the globe. amy walter and tamara keith pandemic.n the politics of a plus, what to read during the long days of social distance. g theodruff: fight coronavirus is hard enough in developed countries like the
europe.states and western but as nick schifrin reports, areas with active conflicts anda e refugee populations, the problems are even harder, and growing more dire. >> schifrin: borders don't stop viruses and pandemics don'stop war. and the victims of war, have no protection. in northwest syria, the war is older than the children. to ease his displatients' tries worries. but he is worried. >> ( translated ): the truth is, be very hard to contain. will you see the way things are here in the camp. people are close to each other, one tent next to the oer. >> schifrin: these syrian refugees in lebanon don't have space to practice social distancing. they don't eugh water to drink, let alone wash their hands. they don't have money, to buy soap. >> ( translated ): they gave us awareness sessions and one b of soap each, but this is not enou.
we ask for disinfectants, sanitizers for the camp. we ask the united nations, we call upon the world to help us. >> schifrin: the world has5 million refugees, and 40 million internally displaced. nowhere are they more vulnerable than warzones, where efforts to fight the virus are patchy. in idlib, syria, local workers hand out covid-19 pamphlets. but the local medical leaderpb tells s newshour there are only 200 intensive care beds, for the entire region. yemen, women weave masks for what health officials calld- co's inevitable arrival. but half of all medical facilities aren't full functional, and medicine, equipment, and testing are limited. inibya, there's a state of emergency, and this cell phone video shows fire trucks on all sides, spraying disinfectant. in afghanistan, ministry of health workers dct government offices. but whole swaths of the country, that helped inspire today's
global ceasefire call by un secretary general antonio guterres. >> silence the guns, stop the artillery, end the airstrikes. this is crucial to help crte corridors for lifesaving aid, to open precious windows for diplomacy, to bring hope to places among the most vulnerable to covid-19. >> schifrin: david milliband is esident and c.e.o. of th international rescue committee a global humanitarian relief organization. vit latest from its control room the studio, are you isolating at home, i want to talk to you about a statement you made about how covid-19 can thrive in war gloarns. just howvulnerable are the refugees, are they internally ple whoed, are the peo are living in theetion countries been broken by war.re system has >> your excellent report showed exactly th challenge. it is tough enough to beat covid when you have the best public
health systems in t worl we're talking about places where there isn't the hand washing facilities, there en't the health facilities and in northwest syria where there are 400 international rescue committee staff working today, 85 health system-- 85 health facilities have been bombed by the syrian gornment and their russian supportedders. so you see the coflict is standing in the way of preventing a plic health emergency. st thanks to the ngo workere on ound we have a fighting chance of using a bit of time t prevent read of the disease. >> you have a $30 million campaign out to try and help some of these people around the world suffering from covid-19. but the disease not only threatens these countries that elsewhere, st will alsoyria an threatening places like the united states, places in the west that are usually the manitarian givers, usually the humanitarian doaners. how much of this is going to de press some of those donations and number. >> our argument is it would be
the utter followee to use this crisis as a moment to cut international aid it makes far more sense to cognize that interconnected world and then only way to stamp out this crisis is to treat it everywhere. we have the gift of time in that most of the war zones of the world haven't yet hit by the full force of covid-19. and we nt d to use thaime to install the hand washing stations, to make sure there isf the triaginpeople to make sure those showing temperature are separated. and to make sure we get the flfertion out by trusted people on the ground. that is what our $30 million appeal is designed to do. around the world 7,000kers volunteers who support them ready to spring into action. but weneed that port to make sure that this disease is stamped out. tely right.abso this is not universal across these war zones, yemenfor example, doesn't have a single case although officials there do expect cases to increase. we saw u.n. secretary general
call for a global ceasefire. isis has suggested that its fighters shouldn't gto europe,eu thpean union said don't send any weapons into libya. is thereactually a chance for world to de crease?e across the >> well, the last time i came on this program i bemoan and the crieses of diplomacy allowing civil wars to tflourish, end in time and claim more civilian lives. sth a moment for the rld t recognize that the unsolved problem of global glairks the unsolv problems of refugees, of war, of health system thation are not in place, t really needs to be address-- addressede and atmoment it is the ngo, nongovernmental organizations on the front lines trying to make a t fference. our call is te world shouldn't just wake up to the problem immediately in front of it. te developed world has to recognize that this is an international crisis and need to be treated as such. >> and i only have about 30
vital and you suggested it before but let me ask you again. so many americans, so many people watching this are scared about their families, their communities, their count. what is your message to them about why they should care about these people thousands of miles away who are alr eady l never-- vulnerable. >> i share the fears of allan amerwho are worried about their own health care and their own health. but what i say to them is that remember this country was built on a big heart but so a sound head, straight thinking. and straight thinking tells you that thsease needs to be beaten everywhere if we are all to bee, sa appeal to the head and the heart. >> david milli banked band, president & ceo of the international rescue committee. thank you very much. t nk you very much indeed. >> woodruff: another f of american life transformed by the
coronavirus: political campgns. cae two democratic presidential idates, former vice president joe biden and vermont senator bernie sanders, are no longer doing in-person campaigning, and are using livestreams to address thend ic. we'll hear from both candidates at where things stand in thelook race for politics monday. >> let me be clear: donald trump coronavirus.ame for the but he does bear responsibility for our response. and i along with every american hope he steps up and starts to get this right.'t no, this ibout politics. this is simply too much at stake. >> we will not accept profiteering and ged and corporations and individls trying to rip off people in the midst of this crisis. not acceptable. and i don't think trump can do the right thing onhis, but
congress must do the right thing. >> yang: just as the presidential mes adapts to social distancing, so does politics monday. joining us remotely from arlington is amy walter, the national editor of the cook political report and host of public radio's "politics with amy watler." and via skype from washington, d.c., tamara keith of npr, who is a co-host of the "npr politics podcast." amy and tam, thanks so much for being with us, let me start with you, just three wee ago we were talking abot the big story being joe biden roaring back in south carolina and the super tuesday states. and now that has all been overtaken by e coronavirus headlines. what has this done to the campaign? >> the biden campaign is adjusting. and that is why you saw tht live stream. a few da agobiden said you know, we're working on it my team is working to set up a studio in my house. and there you have it, there it was. they hav upgraded his live
stream. they have upgraded his interneta thders campaign actually already had a pretty robust live streaming system set up. they had been streaming all of the rallies to supporters. but certainly for the biden campaign, he's treating this much like he is the ple sump tiff nominee even though he isn't ying this. and he is focused on president trump and trying to vunterbalance the daily e press briefings that are happening as we speak that president trump is able to have. >> and amy, on the other side the delegate selection protes-- process is really frozen. primaries have been delayed. the local and state and county conventions have been postponed. but bernie sanders is still the race, has not dropped out. what is the state of s campaign? >> well, i think the state of the democratic primary rightnow is in limbo but it's also over.
and bernie sanders in order to win the nomination would need to win whenever the seimaries eventually do happen, about 64% of the maining degates, delegates have already been selected. so this is going to be very difficult.be there has notn one state since-- on or since super tuesaby that it he has bee to get even close to that number. so tam's right. joe biden is runningas essentially the de facto nominee at this point. i think there is something else to talk out e, john, swi it it was about three weeks ago wel were king all about super tuesday. three weeks ago the conventional citying about this election in general was, and it had been this way forhe last two years, how does a personally unpopular president win re-election. the way he with cou do that i hear-- here we are now talking about the fact that this president has gone from peace and prosperity president to a
wartime president. and the question isn't will hebe ble to line into how great the comple is, it will be how he will be judged on bringing back an economy that pis exected to hit the kind of recession we ma our lifetime.en, certainly i soo we have literally ovrnht changed the very way in which run in ternls of the messaging, not only the way that were communicating. >> and tam, what about that. you covered the white house for npr. as you say, he is now on briefings. every day with these but he is no longer going out holding rallies. what is this doing to his drive for re-election. >> well, on the messaging, it has been really interesting toh. wa he is now talking about how great the economy was, rightfo coronavirus hit, right
before public health measures were fired, the economy too essentially be shut down. his campaign is continuing to run a campaign.an and what i by that is they are doing virtual training, much like on the mocratic sired things have gone virtual on the republican side they have gone virtual. re reaching out to people who attended the president's rallies, and aren't registere to vote. and encouraging them to register to vote virtually. but rallies the centerpiece of trump's campaign before this. >> but no more. tamara keith, amy walter, that is itforpolitics monday. sthaw investment. >> you're lcome. >> woodruff: late this evening, there was another briefing at the white house. president trump again wasfl ked by those leading the governnt's fight against covid-19. r yamiche alcindor is at thee whuse and joins me now.
so yam opene, bring usouamiche, whatave you been learing. >> the president has been stressing that he is doing all that he can to fight off theit coronavirus anspread in the united states. he said he had a message for americans, swi the government is doing everybody possible to get medical suppes to health care systems. he so said he is reallymaking sure people have what they need when it comes to essentials lik hand sanitizer and other things. but the president also stressed that he is eager to g the economy back on track. and all day, judy, white house sources meve been telling the president is looking at possibly trying to see whether or not he will add st the white house guide lines that expire a week from today. here is what he said spifically about the economy. >> america will again and soon be open for business, very soon. a loto soner than three or four months that somebody was suggesting. a lot seern. we cannot let the cure be hewore thanroblem itself. we are not going to let the cure be worse than the problhe.
>> nowresident then is saying that the economy is going to be starting up sooner than people sa oner than people are recommending. akt also saying that the coronavirus outbould last in the united states until august. and health care officials have t said and stressed tcial distancing is going to be key to fighting the vithus. the otheg that the president said that was a little misleading and different from what the experts are saying, he said the virus has spread to 14e counstrks actually 162 according to his administration, the cdc. the other thing to know, the president did say and had a message for asian americans, he didn't use chinese virus, a term he has been getting pushback for, he stressed the fact that asian amed ricans shot be attacked or targeted. he said they are special people in this country and gare help fight the virus along with other all other americans here. >> woodruff: in addition to, that we know there has been some signaling from white house, maybe from the president themselve that there may be a change in those guide lines from
the white house for the 15 day period. what are you hearing out that? >> that's right, for a long time states were saying that they wanted federalidance to figure out whether or not bars should clo, whether taurants should close, whether people should be gathering in crowds of ten or more. the ite house came out with guide lines saying yes, people should stay at home when they can. they said workers if you can wo from home, you should. but the president stresses that was a 150 day guidance and h would reassess it. now white house sources are telling me that the guide liness arto expire on monday. they might actually either beco ended oranged. also vice president pence said the cdc would come out with new guide lines which would make it available for boarks who have been exposed to the virus to go back to work, leaving some sort of musk-- mask he said. we are not quite compleer whatul workers be clear to go back to work or the guide lines but is pretty rkable that this administration could tell workers they can go back to wors when we have that are in dire shortage of hospitals. and this administratn has said
any masker gowns or medical t equipment that should be ed for health-care officials that a treating coronavirus cases, so what we have here is this idea that the trump dministration might be allowing people to go bao work with supplies that hospitals and : alth carworkers need. >> woodrud yamiche, very quickly, anti-mall aricine the spt recommend what do we know about that. >> the president has been saying that there is a sor of medici that is used to treat mall aria, that it might be something that is efftive for the coronavirus. i have been talking to fda officials have been stressing all day that none of that has been cleared.no medication at all has been approved by the fda to eat the coronavirus. there was a man who unfortunately died-m seicating on some of the medication that the president has been recommending. so health officials are reallyal sounding thrm and saying hold on, let's wait well. will have trials in new york ana other s before anything is approved. >> woodruff: yaminiche alcr, thank you very much.
>> thanks so much. >> woodruff: my of us are spending more time at home sheltered in place. over the next few days we are going to share suggestions on filling that time. rey brown begins tonight oth advice on books you might enjoy, part of ooing arts and culture series canvas. >> brown: one way of coping, of the world durinicultg sense moments is through reading. to help us with recommendations, i'm joined by ann patchett, one or our nation's leading au her most recent book is "the dutch house." she's so the co-owner of parnassus books in nashville. ann, nice toee you. thanks so much for doing this for us. ann, what is readi doing for us now? >> well, there are all sorts of things pouring in and mygoeart is reallg out to writers who have books coming out right now who should be on book tour and their ok tours have been canceled. so there are a lot of books that i just don't want people to miss. and i would start off withui
erdrich's wonderful, wonderful book, "the nightwatchman." this is my very vorite of her books. it's a novel based on her grandfather's story about helping native american people hold onto their land. lily king's "writers and lover"" is wonderful and calming and romantic. >> brown: that's two fiction books, right? something that's just going tont make you laugh your head off, go for r. eric thomas' "here for it." it's a book of essays. he writes for elle, he writes a lot of political things, but these are just really laugh-out- loud funny. if you want something more serious, but surprisingly notth too heavy, "story of more" by hope jahren, which is a book about climate change that is calm and kind of lays it out in a way that makess feel more manageable. think if you feel overwhelmed by the idea of sitting down with
a grown up novel, it's a great time to lo at some fiction and nonfiction for younger readers. kate dicamillo novels are the best. my very favorite is"the magician's elephant." she, of course, wrote because of winn-dixie. but you can have a full experience with a novel and be finished with it in an hour and a half or two hours. >> brown: you're proposing a book like that for all of us. right. >> your kids are reading kate dicamillo and you're reading it, too, you're going to love it as much as your kidare.n it is jason rold's working with abraham kennedy and st the retelling of abrah w kendy boch was sam from the beginning which came out in 2016, won the national book award. sth say young adult version and of course jason reynolds ask one of our greatest young adult he wrote long way down, which is a book that i love.
>> how about therrific. >> brown: how about the classics you and i talked about? people really want to actually take the time and sink their teeth into something. >> okay, so war and peace, right? it sounds almost like a joke, except the brilliant nt yiyun li has started a war and peace book club online. so it's a public space. you read 12 pages a day of warin and peace a whole community of readers. d the next thing you know, you've read the book and theem pa is over and you've read war and peace, which is terrific. other thing that would b really fun to do if you have some time, read david copperfiel maybe you read it in high school, maybe you never read it at all. it's my very favorite dickens, but read it with the goldfinch by donna tart and see all the parallels between dickens and donna tart. so that would be two great
classic exercises. >> brown: what's flying off the shelves at parnassus and maybe other bookstores -- cookbooks? >> cookbooks! company, it makes perfect sense. we're all stuck at home. we want to cook. so, melissa clark, "dinner in french" is a cookbook that i love. melissa clark does a lot of recipes for the new york times. also, there's a new book by rose levy beranbaum called "rose's baking basics." and i have been using her books forever. so if you want to pull out the flour and the sugar and the measuring cups and get down to some serious baking, highly recommend "roses baking basics"" that's hard to say fast. >> brown: before we go, you're a small business owner yourself. right. the importance of this moment ssr supporting local busi? >> it's really true. we at parnassus, we're not open to the public, but we're stille fulfilling onlders.
we have curbside delivery. lotsnd lots of small bunesses are doing that. so if you want a book, take a minute. find out what your local independent store, where they are, who they are, if they're open and selling books and take the trouble to order your bks from your local independent bookstore. we want to make sure thathe small businesses in our community also survive this time.>> rown: all right. great advice. wonderful recommendations. ann patchett, thank you very much. >> thanks, jeff. special episode of our podcast on the coronavirus outbreak, how did this pandemic begin, and how do you protect yourselves and your community. find it now on our website, pbs.org/newshour/podcasts, or subscribe wherever you get your and that's the newshour for tonight. i'm judy woodruff.
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